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26 May 2017 – 0121.2017-18 – Change of auditors from Veritau


I notice that at some point you changed auditors from Veritau.
1. Can you furnish all recorded information regarding the decision/reason /process for changing internal auditors.

2. Please provide the call for tenders, numbers and bidders prices and how selection was made.

3. For the last 5 years please provide the costs paid out for the standard internal audit, and separately any additional fees for extra services.

4. Please furnish the contract and SLA and the length of each.


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The OPCC/ North Yorkshire Police have not held a contract with Veritau for internal audit purposes since Veritau’s establishment in 2009.

Over the last 5 years North Yorkshire Police have held contracts with two Internal Auditors, the earlier contract was under a collaboration agreement with West Yorkshire Police (WYP).

Our current contract for internal audit services is with Baker Tilly Risk Advisory Services LLP (now named RSMUK).

1) The decision/ reason and process for changing internal auditors can be found upon the enclosed ‘Procurement Background and Process’ document.

Redactions have been made pursuant to sections 43(2) – ‘Commercial Interests’ and 40(2) – ‘Personal Information’. Details on this exemption can be found later in the letter.

2) The contract with Baker Tilly Risk Advisory Services is for an estimated value of £130,200 for a 30 month period. Details on the call for tenders, numbers and how selection was made can be found upon the enclosed ‘Procurement Background and Process’ document and the ‘Invitation to Tender’ documents.

I am withholding the bidder’s prices pursuant to section 43(2) – Commercial Interests. Details on this exemption can be found later in the letter.

3) Please see below a breakdown of the Standard and additional Internal Audit Charges for the last 5 years split between the Chief Constable and PCC.

North Yorkshire Police Internal Audit Charges
12/13 13/14 14/15 15/16 16/17
£ £ £ £ £
Chief Constable – Force 18,275 20,984 23,600 21,188 19,433
Police and Crime Commissioner 40,000 40,000 40,000 35,787 33,742
Total Standard Internal Audit Fees 58,275 60,984 63,600 56,975 55,560

Additional Internal Audit Fee for Project advise 0 0 0 0 2,385

4) Please find enclosed the collaboration agreement with WYP and shared services agreement, which was signed on 06 May 2009. Further details can be found at the following hyperlink;

004/2013 – Extension of contract for Internal Audit provision to 31 March 2014

The current contract, beginning on 01/10/2015, is with Baker Tilly Risk Advisory Services (now RSMUK). I am exempting the provision of the contract for the current internal auditing services pursuant to section 21 – ‘Information Reasonably Accessible by other Means’, as the contract is already publically available upon the Blue Light Procurement Database (BLPD) at the following hyperlink;

Section 17 of the Act requires North Yorkshire Police, when refusing to provide such information (because the information is exempt) to provide you the applicant with a notice which: (a) states that fact, (b) specifies the exemption in question and (c) states (if that would not otherwise be apparent) why the exemption applies. Please see the relevant exemption headers below for further information.

Section 21 – Information Reasonably Accessible by Other Means
The exempted information is deemed already reasonably accessible. A hyperlink to the information has been provided.

Section 21 is an absolute class based exemption and I am not required to consider the harm or public interest when applying this exemption.

Section 40 – Personal Information

Section 40(2) is an absolute class based exemption, which does not require a public interest test, but requires the balancing of the legitimate interests of the public against the interests of the individual under the first Data Protection Principle (that of ‘fairness’.)

This exemption applies because the right given under the Act to request official information held by public authorities does not apply to the personal data of third parties where disclosure of that information would not be fair to the individual, and where there is no legitimate public interest in disclosure.

In all the circumstances of the case it has been determined that the duty to the individual under the Data Protection Act 1998, and the public interest in maintaining the exemption from disclosure of personal information held by the force in such instances, outweighs the public interest in disclosure. In this instance, personal information can only be disclosed to the individual concerned.

Releasing personal details to a person other than the data subject would not only breach the data subject’s Data Protection rights it may also breach the obligations placed on an authority under the European Convention on Human Rights.

Section 43(2) – Commercial Interests
This is a qualified, class based exemption, which requires that I conduct a public interest test to balance the legitimate interests of the public in knowing the information against the interests of non-disclosure.

This exemption applies because the disclosure of the requested information would, or would be likely to prejudice commercial interests.

Public Interest Test

Factors Favouring Disclosure
There is a strong public interest in the efficiency of public sector spending. Releasing the information would provide the public with the knowledge on what prices the bidders proposed to North Yorkshire Police and what North Yorkshire Police could have spent on Internal Auditing services if they did not chose to agree a contract with RSMUK. Disclosure would promote openness and transparency, displaying that public funds are being spent correctly and efficiently.

Factors Favouring Non-Disclosure
To run tendering processes successfully the pricing information contained is commercially sensitive. Disclosure of the supplier’s bids would hinder fair competition between the competitive businesses. In the future, other companies may be deterred from entering into a tender application with North Yorkshire Police in fear that their pricing strategies would be compromised.

The bidders also proposed their prices in confidence; therefore it is important to maintain the confidentiality of this information. Breaching any of the companies’ confidentialities could not only detriment the commercial interest of the companies, but would also put North Yorkshire Police at a disadvantage in negotiations at future reviews and through future necessary competition.

Additionally, disclosure of certain information could cause reputational damage to a supplier, which would impact their ability to conduct future business as it may deter persons from entering into business with them. This information should be removed as to not harm the supplier’s commercial interests.

Balancing Test
The disclosure of commercially sensitive information would prejudice the commercial interests of the supplier’s involved and may deter them from participating in future procurement initiatives which would consequently be of a detriment to North Yorkshire Police. There is a strong public interest against disclosure where that disclosure would be likely to prejudice the Force’s own commercial interests. Disclosure of the information would be likely to adversely affect the bargaining position of North Yorkshire Police during future contractual negotiations relating to current and future contracts which would result in less effective use of public money.

The public interest would not be served where disclosure of commercial information would hinder fair and open competition for public sector contracts.

Pursuant to Section 17(1) of the Act this acts as a Refusal Notice in relation to the exempted parts of your request.

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